UK Editor Calls for Nuclear Destruction in Israel [Updated]
Smith is not a man. He is an intelligent creature with the genes and ancestry of a man, but he is not a man. He's more a Martian than a man. Until we came along he had never laid eyes on a human being. He thinks like a Martian, he feels like a Martian. He's been brought up by a race which has nothing in common with us. - from Robert Heinlein's classic novel "Stranger in a Strange Land"
Abd Al-Bari Atwan is the editor of Al-Quds Al-Arabi, an Arabic language daily newspaper in London. During an interview on Lebanese television, where the topic was Iran's nuclear capability, he remarked:
"If the Iranian missiles strike Israel, by Allah, I will go to Trafalgar Square and dance with delight...In the comments section, the very first person replied:
If a war breaks out, where will the Iranians retaliate? If Iran is able to retaliate, it will burn the oil wells, block the Strait of Hormuz, attack the American bases in the Gulf and, Allah willing, it will attack Israel, as well"
I hope no one is surprised by this callous remark. After 9/11 many Arabs did just that [dance with delight], in case anyone has forgotten!
This is not, by any stretch, the only lunacy to come from this islamacist, who has appeared not only in his own newspaper and Al-Jazeera, but Sky News, Dateline London, BBC World, CNN World, and Fox News as well.
In 2001, during an Al-Jazeera special on Osama Bin Laden, Atwan remarked:
"If you want to talk about terrorism against a legitimate government, fine. The U.S. dropped two atom bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, and the victims were innocent. … This is the legitimate power you are defending. … Didn't it kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people? Can we call this government legitimate? It is a terrorist regime that has killed innocent people since 1945 to this very moment."
In March 2003, at the start of the Iraq war, if there was any doubt how deep his admiration of Saddam Hussein's Iraq went, he cast it all aside writing an article titled: "Baghdad Burns But There Is No Savior":
"I ask what the heroic Egyptian army, and we ask what the Syrian officers and soldiers are doing these days, and we inquire about the Saudi armed forces and the billions spent on their equipment with the most modern tanks and planes. If these Arab armies do not move to defend a brotherly country and a people facing death by fire, when would they [move]?"
"Silence means collaboration, and the increase in the oil production in order to lower prices is more dangerous than participation in military operations. They have refused to use the oil in the service of the Arab causes. They said that oil is a commodity and its revenues are required to serve the growth plans. But they use it to serve American aggression against Iraq."
"We are not asking the kingdom of Abd Al-Aziz to suspend the export of oil as King Faysal had done in 1973 in solidarity with Egypt and Syria in the 1973 war. But we are asking it not to increase its oil production by 1.2 million barrels [a day] as it is happening now to reduce price and support American aggression."
In 2004, he tried to convince us that the former leader of Al-Qaida in Iraq, and the world's #2 terrorist, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, was no threat at all:
"Al-Zarqawi has become ... the perfect bogeyman... He is a foreigner, so it is the perfect way for the Americans to discredit the resistance and say these attacks are not coming from the Iraqi people"This statement might have been a bit more forgivable, if it wasn't only two months after Zarkawi, on video, cut the head off of Nicholas Berg and dumped his decapitated body near a Baghdad overpass. Another inaccurate quote:
There is no real proof that he is alive. If he is supposedly moving around freely in Iraq, why haven't Iraqis spoken about him? He can't be that difficult to recognise with his wooden leg"Since he was killed in 2006, then he probably was alive in 2004...
Most likely, the absolute epitome of his nonsense is this article, he wrote on the 5th anniversary of the terror attacks on Sep 11th. He claimed that Al-Qaida "won the war on terror" and that:
The spread of the Islamophobia phenomenon in Western societies, and the European and American ones in particular, did not lead only to the fall in the integration of at least 40 million Muslims in their new homelands but led the second and third generations of Muslim communities to lean toward extremism as a reaction to the campaigns of hatred waged against themApparently, it doesn't occur to him that certain terror attacks might be the reason why the "hatred" happened in the first place! Or that Arab pundits like him who function as cheerleaders of terror groups might be one of the reasons that integration within Europe is so difficult...
On the capture of Saddam Hussein in 2003, he remarked:
"I wish the Iraqi president had fought and fallen martyr like his sons"
On the death of Saddam:
"We are sad and pained when we see an Arab leader approaching the noose while there is silence and indifference on the part of his fellow Arab leaders and more than 300 million Arabs spread out over five continents in the world."
Munir Al-Mawari, a moderate Arab journalist wrote of Atwan:
"The Abd Al-Bari Atwan [appearing] on CNN is completely different from the Abd Al-Bari Atwan on the Al-Jazeera network or in his Al-Quds Al-Arabi daily. On CNN, Atwan speaks solemnly and with total composure, presenting rational and balanced views. This is in complete contrast with his fuming appearances on Al-Jazeera and in Al-Quds Al-Arabi, in which he whips up the emotions of multitudes of viewers and readers.
Abd Al-Bari Atwan is part of the problem… and our problem is that it is not only America that we hate. Our Arab societies are societies of hate; we were raised to hate each other even before we hated others…"
Keep in mind that Atwan has lived in the UK since 1978, and presumably is a citizen by now. Leaving aside the remark about Israel, he is openly praising his adopted country's enemies in a public newspaper, on more than one occasion, and while they are at war. One thing that is highly disturbing here, is now many Muslims like Mr. Atwan continue to attack, trash, burn, and abuse the hospitality of host European nations that have allowed them to live there. If Middle Eastern nations are so much better, why did he leave in the first place? Why doesn't he move back? He certainly had the opportunity; he was born in a Palestinian refugee camp, but was educated in Jordan, and worked in Egypt before moving to the UK.
This is one of my biggest grievances about people like this. If the UK took me in as an immigrant, I would never trash it or aid its enemies the way this man does. Even as a US citizen, I wouldn't, and in fact, I am proud that I served alongside UK forces on more than one occasion. It's ironic that as a foreigner, I have more love and more in common with Britain than a man who has lived there for the past 19 years! This is further evidence (if you didn't need it already) that Britain's Muslim population has grown far faster than it can be responsibly assimilated (also see this earlier article here).
UPDATE 30/08/2007 10:25:00 AM: Thanks to Little Green Footballs for linking here. Also, if you want to watch the actual interview, video is available here.
Israel is certainly taking these threats seriously. They have now confirmed that they are constructing a nuclear blast shelter to protect the government ministries and military command centers.
I should also point out one great irony here. Mr. Atwan is a Palestinian by birth. But Israel is so small, with millions of Palestinians living in, near, or passing through it, that any significant nuclear strike on Israel would likely kill hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Palestinians as well. Does he care? Look at Munir Al-Mawari's quote above. People like this are so infused with hatred for themselves and others, that they ultimately don't care who they kill, and why.
Also, here is one amusing comment from LGF:
I can confirm (as previous posters have done so) that this wanker appears on BBC all the time as the 'sensitive' 'moderate' 'muslim' speaking for the 'Arab street'. He's always speaking jibberish and going on about the Is-ra-eeeleees 'stole my country'. As a general rule of thumb, I always tune out when ever anyone pronounces 'Israelis' that way on the news. You know they're going to be frothing genocidal morons.
Like this one, Mister I'm-gonna-slip-over-the-pigeon-shit-in-T rafalgar-Square.Of course, in the typical Arab manner, pushing for everybody else to fight and kill the 'eeeveeel Zionist Entity' as he sits on his arse. Nobody in the Middle East gives a damn about the Palestinians. If they did, the Palos wouldn't be sitting in 'refugee' cities (camps? with huge 10 story buildings? where's the camel, Achmed?) living on dole paid for by the West. They just one more of the everlasting 'grievances'.
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6 comments:
Clearly a descendant of Amalek.
I fail to see how the ravings of one man of which you wrote and annotated for 99% of this post have any bearing on the millions of peaceful Muslims living out their lives in Britain and the rest of Europe or whether the immigration of more of them should be halted.
Oh and BTW, you may not like this person's point of view, or what he says, but it's a free country and he has every right to say it. Did he call for the murder of a specific person, for example? Has he advocated that Muslims rise up and kill their British hosts? That would be crossing the line. But simply saying you wish a country would be wiped off the map - no matter how disgusting that might sound - is his point of view.
This is not just one ordinary man on the street. This is the editor in chief of a popular Arab-language newspaper in Britain, and a frequent guest on news programs around the world.
Maybe you can call Britain a free country, but this man has spent years apologizing for terrorists, not to mention calling for victory for Iraq while they were still at war with Britain. In my humble opinion, that absolutely crosses the line, and while he should not be jailed for it, Britain doesn't have to put up with it either. They should deport him back to Palestine and he could continue his hatred of the West from there.
I never said that Britain's peaceful Muslims were to blame, although I would be a lot more impressed if groups like the Muslim Council of Britain called for him to step down from the paper. That won't happen, I know, but it would impress me if it did.
If it's OK for Abdul to dream about bombing Israel it must be OK for me to dream about bombing Saudia Arabia. Ah, to target the Kaaba during the Hajj - now that's what I can a target rich environment. Unfortunately, I can only dream whereas Iran is actively working towards their goal.
Mr. Atwan has severe amnesia when it comes to brotherly Arab love. Educated Arabs will admit to this non stop hate of each other that began long before Israel ever existed. Seriously now, you can't even agree if Shi'ites are Muslims half the time unless of course you happen to be in the same line of fire.
'Silence means collaboration' also applies to those countries and people such as Yassir Arafat who thought Iraq invading Kuwait was a grand idea. Furthurmore, praising or speaking of Saddam as a 'martyr' makes me want to regurgitate after what he did to Kuwait, it's people, and the foreigners who resided there in 1990. Since when do murderers receive medals of martyrdom!? Such twisted ideology.
The Palestinians received large amounts of donations from Kuwait who sent many of them on scholarships to the U.S. only to have Yassir Arafat side with Saddam after picking up his last large donation.
That Arab brotherly love is always remembered by those of us who resided here, though we do not lower ourselves to bashing or hating those who chose to side with Saddam. If we did, we could choose to hate all Iraqis which would be ridiculous.
Some Editors just export their hate to countries that allow freedom of speech, hence his obvious immigration to the U.K. Australia has just announced they may begin a new 'values test' to determine if those seeking citizenship in their country would be loyal to the freedom it extends.
I suggest the U.K. and the U.S. follow suit. My family was grateful to be allowed to immigrate to America, and not abuse it's freedoms by spreading hate and dissension.
There is no Arab brotherly love unless it suits the 2 parties involved at that very moment. Otherwise the Muslims and Christian Arabs would be walking hand in hand into the Emerald City.
Oh, and as for Muslim brotherly love, I would love to see this begin in Sudan which is so ignored as it's a Muslim on Muslim act of Genocide. Murdered Sudanese by the Janjaweed is not as important as Palestine or Iraq since those being murdered are not Arab.
Letters ; I would allow Muslims exactly the same amount of " freedom " that the Saudi Arabians would allow me . I do believe in equality of treatment in ALL matters .
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